[IPOL discuss] Ipol articles

José Luis Lisani joseluis.lisani at uib.es
Tue Dec 27 12:01:42 CET 2011


Dear all,

first of all thanks to Simon and Rafael for their job.

Now, some comments.

Concerning the pdf viewers in http://dev.ipol.im/~simonl/php/pdfInHtml/ 
<http://dev.ipol.im/%7Esimonl/php/pdfInHtml/>,
I tested them with different pdf's and in some cases I got an error.
My question is: why bother to create a pdf viewer when there are so many of
them (e.g. the Adobe Acrobat) freely available?

With respect to the pdf file in 
http://dev.ipol.im/~simonl/files/IpolTeX/IpolTeX.tar. 
<http://dev.ipol.im/%7Esimonl/files/IpolTeX/IpolTeX.tar.gz>,
what Rafael and Simon propose is similar (but better) than my proposal
(in thread [IPOL discuss] Typographic problem (19/08/2011)).

However, even if it is handy to have a printable pdf version of the 
paper I still prefer
the current wiki-like style. Some reasons:
- it integrates description+demo+archive,
- it permits to hide/show some material,
- it permits to display several images in the same frame (very useful
for comparisons)

The only problems I see in the current format are:
1) from the author point of view:
      - extra work to write the wiki
2) from the reader point of view:
      - visualization of formulas and some mathematical symbols
      - difficulty to get a nice printable version

I don't think the extra work for the author is really a problem.
It doesn't take that much time to write the description of a paper
(maybe with the exception of formulas and tables,
and here we could use Mathjax, as once proposed by Nicolas).

 From the reader's point of view, wouldn't it be possible to get a 
printable (pdf) version from the
current wiki page (maybe including some directives that specify what to 
print and what not
from the html file) ?

José Luis



El 23/12/2011 17:04, Simon Loic escribió:
> Dear all,
>
> After a long period trying alternative solutions to embed Ipol 
> articles on-line,  we (Rafael and me) have finally decided that our 
> work was ready to be shared and submitted to your tests and feedback.
>
> At the beginning, we were supposed to try to:
> 1) convert Latex files into html
> 2) define a tex class and a template of tex file to guide any future 
> Ipol author to start a new article and to ensure that the tex to html 
> conversion is handled correctly
> 3) embed pdf files in html
>
> So far, we have rather explored the 2) and 3). And you can find the 
> outcome:
> here http://dev.ipol.im/~simonl/files/IpolTeX/IpolTeX.tar.gz 
> <http://dev.ipol.im/%7Esimonl/files/IpolTeX/IpolTeX.tar.gz>
>
> and there http://dev.ipol.im/~simonl/php/pdfInHtml/ 
> <http://dev.ipol.im/%7Esimonl/php/pdfInHtml/>
>
> In this last page, the idea is to upload your own pdf files, and try 3 
> different ways to view the pdf online: your own browser plugin, a 
> technology based on flash (FlexPaper), and another based on javascript 
> (pdf.js). You can try them by checking the associated radio button. 
> You can also click the "get link" button to get an url that you can 
> then attach to your feedback if you will. If you think that this kind 
> of embedding is stable and practical enough for Ipol then we can give 
> the green light to the authors currently in the process of 
> writing/submitting. Otherwise we should still remain open to 
> alternatives...
>
> Concerning the Ipol Latex class, following JM advice, we've kept it as 
> simple as possible. And there again your feedback is more than welcome.
>
> cheers,
> --
> Loïc
>
>
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